You yourself referred to it as a "fun bonus" (and spoke about the subscription as a whole).
Which begs the question, what is the main function, not the bonus?
The main thing is the (supposed) online functionality.
The retro games are actually supposed to be a bonus, they weren't there at the start of the service.
It could be considered a "fun bonus" if they actually provided a functioning online multiplayer experience, which is after all what the NSO is ostensibly for. But they don't.
Not controlling Luigi in the overworld seems to be the most bizarre design decision.
They've just released remakes of RPG and Thousand Year Door, and what makes Mario & Luigi games distinct from the other series is the ability to control both brothers.
@Joeynator3000
A couple of reviews featured here gave it 7 out of 10, which from my understanding is rarely considered 'amazing' under scoring policies.
That's interesting about Mario RPG, but Alpha Dream's first effort has nothing to do with my point.
Under a review of Brothership which declares it to be the best Mario & Luigi game yet (and the first Mario and Luigi game Alpha Dream didn't make) I suggest that it's damning for Alpha Dream.
Though thinking about it now, I may have read that some Alpha Dream staff might have gone over to this new developer, which would somewhat undermine my point.
Certainly big companies do far more egregious things than merely not listing composers,
but simply stating 'culture' is not a valid defence of anything in isolation.
Regarding putting entertainment on a pedestal,
I would argue that you yourself are doing so,
unless you also comment on furniture and culinary websites (which I guess isn't impossible).
And there are celebrity chefs at high end restaurants that are valued by some people.
And that's kind of it, isn't it?
When anyone can do something, like cook a basic rice dish, work in a factory or whatever, it's just not that highly valued, but if it's rarified, like reaching the top of the culinary profession, or producing thought provoking paintings, or creating music, then it's appreciated, and renumerated, more.
So essentially supply and demand.
At the risk of stating the obvious, the human intellect isn't capable of knowing and appreciating every person that's involved in everyday necessities.
There is also obviously more scope in art (and much of the entertainment industry) for individual expression, and in such cases it is natural to be more invested in who the individual is. Some guy working in data entry, not so much.
And of course art touches us on a deeper level than basic everyday things, so again we want to know who made us feel that way.
"there are soldiers buried in unmarked graves because no one could identify their bodies.
If this isn't a double-standard in society, I don't know what is."
Utterly bizarre example to choose, because as the point actually attests, the soldiers couldn't be identified even if they wanted to.
In any case, there are tombs for unknown soldiers.
Unhelpful choice of example aside, it ties back into my point though.
Many millions of people were trained to do what soldiers could do in WW2.
Not so many could do what Alan Turing could, so he's remembered by more people.
That's the sad and unfair reality of it.
The 'market' if you like.
It either needs a greatly improved sequel or to be completely reworked.
I think my biggest issue with the game was how the collectables, the quils, weren't cleverly placed to entice you to new areas or lead you to a challenge like the notes in Banjo (nor were they shiny and satisfying to collect like the notes were), they just appeared to have been blasted out of cannon over often fairly barren maps.
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Re: 'Nintendo Music' Adds Classic N64 Soundtrack, Here's Every Song Included
Oh hot dog diggity do dog!
Re: Anniversary: Donkey Kong Country Is Now 30 Years Old (SNES)
Great game,
but when compared to modern games,
and even the sequels a couple of years later,
most of the bosses are piss poor.
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl - Duel: Double Dragon (NES)
Box Art Brawls Current Total:
Europe: 86
Japan: 86
North America: 101
Australia and New Zealand: 1
Re: Best Mario RPGs Of All Time
Sticker Star is still last place.
Take note.
Re: Opinion: No, Zelda: The Minish Cap's Worst Sidequest Isn't The Kinstones
Played this for the first time on NSO,
and found the game poorly designed overall,
don't get what others are seeing.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Mario & Luigi: Brothership?
@VoidofLight
A demo doesn't have to come from the start of the game.
But does sound like this game's pace wouldn't appeal to me.
Re: Poll: What Review Score Would You Give Mario & Luigi: Brothership?
Oh for a demo on the eshop.
Re: 'Nintendo Music' Update Adds Wii Sports Soundtrack, Here's Every Song Included
@Jprhino84
No, I'm not.
You yourself referred to it as a "fun bonus" (and spoke about the subscription as a whole).
Which begs the question, what is the main function, not the bonus?
The main thing is the (supposed) online functionality.
The retro games are actually supposed to be a bonus, they weren't there at the start of the service.
Re: 'Nintendo Music' Update Adds Wii Sports Soundtrack, Here's Every Song Included
@Jprhino84
It could be considered a "fun bonus" if they actually provided a functioning online multiplayer experience, which is after all what the NSO is ostensibly for. But they don't.
Re: Super Nintendo World's Donkey Kong Country Park Gets Opening Date
Just embrace the RARE created stuff Nintendo.
Re: Super Nintendo World's Donkey Kong Country Park Gets Opening Date
What a wonderfully ridiculous hot dog.
Re: Nintendo Direct Announced For Super Nintendo World's Donkey Kong Expansion
@Deviant-Dork
What does this have to do with Super Mario Land?
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl - Duel: Hatris
Box Art Brawls Current Total:
Europe: 85
Japan: 86
North America: 100
Australia and New Zealand: 1
Re: Nintendo Direct Announced For Super Nintendo World's Donkey Kong Expansion
Oh, doctor sexy.
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl - Duel: Hatris
Japanese one might be the most revolting box art I've ever seen.
Re: Nintendo Suing Streamer For Allegedly Broadcasting "Pirated" Switch Games Ahead Of Official Release
Imagine sending a letter to a bank and telling them you're about to rob them.
Re: Mario & Luigi Fans Aren't Happy About Brothership's Battle Button Tweaks
Not controlling Luigi in the overworld seems to be the most bizarre design decision.
They've just released remakes of RPG and Thousand Year Door, and what makes Mario & Luigi games distinct from the other series is the ability to control both brothers.
Really strange choice.
Re: Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door On Switch Has Already Outsold The GameCube Original
Hot diggity dog!
Re: 'Nintendo Music' Update Adds Classic SNES Soundtrack, Here's Every Song Included
@SBandy1
Oh yeah.
Takes a while to get to the humming.
Re: 'Nintendo Music' Update Adds Classic SNES Soundtrack, Here's Every Song Included
Is Mining Melancholy missing?
Re: 'Nintendo Music' Update Adds Classic SNES Soundtrack, Here's Every Song Included
Can now get DKC2 profile icons!
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Mario & Luigi: Brothership
If anything IGN has done Nintendo a favour,
as it has apparently given people the avenue to completely ignore the 7 out of 10 reviews.
Re: Round Up: The Reviews Are In For Mario & Luigi: Brothership
Hmm, I could do with a demo for this one.
@Joeynator3000
A couple of reviews featured here gave it 7 out of 10, which from my understanding is rarely considered 'amazing' under scoring policies.
Re: Review: Mario & Luigi: Brothership (Switch) - Easily The Best Mario & Luigi RPG Yet
@N00BiSH
That's interesting about Mario RPG,
but Alpha Dream's first effort has nothing to do with my point.
Under a review of Brothership which declares it to be the best Mario & Luigi game yet (and the first Mario and Luigi game Alpha Dream didn't make)
I suggest that it's damning for Alpha Dream.
Though thinking about it now,
I may have read that some Alpha Dream staff might have gone over to this new developer,
which would somewhat undermine my point.
Re: Review: Mario & Luigi: Brothership (Switch) - Easily The Best Mario & Luigi RPG Yet
@N00BiSH
Yes my point,
the best in the series has already been made by another developer on their first try.
Re: 'Nintendo Music' App Update Adds A Classic SNES Soundtrack
Oh yeah,
here we go!
Re: Review: Mario & Luigi: Brothership (Switch) - Easily The Best Mario & Luigi RPG Yet
Seems pretty damning for Alpha Dream.
Re: Review: Mario & Luigi: Brothership (Switch) - Easily The Best Mario & Luigi RPG Yet
Oh doctor we've seen razzle dazzle here today.
Re: ICYMI: 'Nintendo Music' Has Spoiler Prevention, Here's How To Activate It
Pretty good idea.
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl - Duel: Sonic X Shadow Generations
Box Art Brawls Current Total:
Europe: 85
Japan: 85
North America: 100
Australia and New Zealand: 1
Re: Random: Rapper Doja Cat Debuts 'Bouncy' Conker-Inspired Halloween Costume
I'd have gone as the King Bee.
Re: Come On, Where Are The Composer Credits in 'Nintendo Music'?
Certainly big companies do far more egregious things than merely not listing composers,
but simply stating 'culture' is not a valid defence of anything in isolation.
Re: Come On, Where Are The Composer Credits in 'Nintendo Music'?
@Not_Soos
It's an intetesting perspective.
Regarding putting entertainment on a pedestal,
I would argue that you yourself are doing so,
unless you also comment on furniture and culinary websites (which I guess isn't impossible).
And there are celebrity chefs at high end restaurants that are valued by some people.
And that's kind of it, isn't it?
When anyone can do something, like cook a basic rice dish, work in a factory or whatever, it's just not that highly valued, but if it's rarified, like reaching the top of the culinary profession, or producing thought provoking paintings, or creating music, then it's appreciated, and renumerated, more.
So essentially supply and demand.
At the risk of stating the obvious, the human intellect isn't capable of knowing and appreciating every person that's involved in everyday necessities.
There is also obviously more scope in art (and much of the entertainment industry) for individual expression, and in such cases it is natural to be more invested in who the individual is. Some guy working in data entry, not so much.
And of course art touches us on a deeper level than basic everyday things, so again we want to know who made us feel that way.
"there are soldiers buried in unmarked graves because no one could identify their bodies.
If this isn't a double-standard in society, I don't know what is."
Utterly bizarre example to choose, because as the point actually attests, the soldiers couldn't be identified even if they wanted to.
In any case, there are tombs for unknown soldiers.
Unhelpful choice of example aside, it ties back into my point though.
Many millions of people were trained to do what soldiers could do in WW2.
Not so many could do what Alan Turing could, so he's remembered by more people.
That's the sad and unfair reality of it.
The 'market' if you like.
Re: Review: Pokémon Trading Card Game Pocket (Mobile) - A Breezy, Beautiful Take On TCG, Gacha Aside
What I did experience of it I liked,
but it completely crashed my phone.
Re: Nintendo Music - Every Nintendo System, Series And Game Included
@Pod
Fair point.
Re: Nintendo Music - Every Nintendo System, Series And Song Included
@Pod
They've also got a music section on the Mario 3D AllStars game,
so they're quite used to the concept.
Re: Exclusive: Croc Remaster Gets A Release Window And A Swanky Collector's Edition
Hmm, could go for this.
Re: Nintendo Music - Every Nintendo System, Series And Song Included
@Pod
Well YouTube is on the machine,
and this app is from Nintendo themselves
and presumably easier to implement than video streaming.
Re: Nintendo Music - Every Nintendo System, Series And Song Included
Why isn't it also on the actual Switch?
Re: Switch Online's "Mature" N64 App Expands With Two More Games
@BANJO
Maybe stupid question,
but when you use the N64 controller,
are the buttons mapped perfectly for every N64 game?
Re: Switch Online's "Mature" N64 App Expands With Two More Games
@cartunecartune
And what games are you figuratively looking forward to seeing on the Mature N64 app?
Re: Poll: Box Art Brawl: Kid Icarus (NES)
Box Art Brawls Current Total:
Europe: 85
Japan: 84
North America: 100
Australia and New Zealand: 1
Re: Review: Banjo-Tooie (Nintendo 64) - An Enormous Adventure With Charm Up The Kazoo
@tektite_captain
I think I prefer the art direction of the DKC games,
the eyes on everything approach with the N64 games can get a little tiresome.
Re: Review: Banjo-Tooie (Nintendo 64) - An Enormous Adventure With Charm Up The Kazoo
Enjoying it so far,
the camera is so much better than in Kazooie.
Re: Review: Banjo-Tooie (Nintendo 64) - An Enormous Adventure With Charm Up The Kazoo
@Coalescence
I think people dislike the backtracking.
But I love those games,
I enjoy just being in those worlds,
Whether it's 'backtracking' or not.
Re: Video: Yooka-Replaylee Side-By-Side Graphics Comparison (Original & Remaster)
@Diagnosed_H1N1
Agree completely.
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch Online's N64 Library With Banjo-Tooie
So freaking happy.
Re: Talking Point: What Is Nintendo Thinking Trying To Keep The Lid On This Playtest Program?
Possibly it's just a clever marketing ploy,
but it's not like Nintendo hasn't been stupid in the past.
Re: Yooka-Replaylee Remaster Officially Confirmed For 'Nintendo Platforms'
Eh, why?
It either needs a greatly improved sequel or to be completely reworked.
I think my biggest issue with the game was how the collectables, the quils, weren't cleverly placed to entice you to new areas or lead you to a challenge like the notes in Banjo (nor were they shiny and satisfying to collect like the notes were), they just appeared to have been blasted out of cannon over often fairly barren maps.
Re: ICYMI: My Nintendo Store Adds New Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom Merch
Pretty nice,
but not as good as the Paper Mario bag I got from the Nintendo Store.
Hooray for me!