I think it's an error or has something to do with this, which is another disclaimer on the page:
Save data created in the second save data slot in The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom – Nintendo Switch 2 Edition cannot be transferred to The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom on Nintendo Switch.
@Banjo- People who have actually seen the hardware and games in person have indicated that it looks better than Series S in several cases.
How can you say Switch isn't able to do anything at that level? We are just getting started with Switch 2 and haven't seen any finished games yet. Switch 2 also has Tensor Cores and Ray Tracing cores that simply aren't available on Gen 9 hardware.
As far as DF, they used captured footage from a Youtube videos of unfinished games, not actual hands on analysis. None of these games are done. We'll see when the console launches.
@rjejr It's a hybrid. What handheld do you know that can do 4k60 to a TV? Look, like anything, everyone is going to have different value propositions. For me, the hybrid nature of the Switch and Switch 2 is what make it appealing. I never owned a handheld until the Switch, only home consoles. And I love the fact that I can play AAA titles both on my TV at high resolution, then pick it up out of the dock and play the same game, 1080p on the train to work in the morning. The fact that it is running Cyberpunk with high graphical fidelity in a handheld is, in a word, stunning.
Is it as good graphically as the PS5 or Series X? No, of course not. But in an age of diminishing returns, and unlike the Switch 1, it's good enough for me and likely good enough for a lot of people.
@MrGawain Not really. The tech they are using is also important for games; they wouldn't have taken anything out hardware wise other than maybe the audio chip that filters out background noise, but that's not an expensive component.
@Banjo- The DF videos are fine for what they are, but they are also going off YouTube footage (which compresses the hell out of video) and get a few facts wrong.
@CheapCheepBeach There have been side by side comparisons between some games on the Series S vs what we've seen on Switch 2, and in almost every case, the Switch 2 graphics looked better. Likely because it has more, faster memory and a whole lot of Nvidia magic.
Besides, you can't throw a Series S into your backpack and play it on the bus. The Series S doesn't have a 1080p 120 fps VRR and HDR display as part of it. And the Series S is in no way "three times the processing power". I'd put it more like 20% more raw processing power, but in reality it's memory starved so that's what is holding it back. Completely different value proposition.
The folks at Digital Foundry are speculating that it may be MiniLED based on the Direct. There's also the issue that it is really hard to get an OLED panel with 120hz VRR and HDR for anything close to a reasonable price. My guess is Nintendo really wanted 120hz VRR and HDR, so compromized on the panel. But if it is miniLED, that's almost as good as OLED.
@PloverNutter I think they considered tariffs in the price, but they didn't think that the tariffs would be nearly as steep as they are. A 40%+ tax in Vientam where many Switch consoles are manufactured is a big deal.
My suspicion of what happened here is that the licensing agreement came up, and there was a dispute over the price, and Nintendo looked at the usage of super soccer and saw that it was probably close to non-existent and therefore not worth the price of licensing. It's going to happen, I'm not going to get worked up over a single game that I never play, but if this starts becoming a trend then I'll get concerned. But it's not trend yet, so really why get up in arms?
As far as virtual console, yes you could "own" the games, but those e shops are gone. If you have a Wii or Wii U and it breaks today, you have no way of getting those games back. So at the moment every single virtual console game is delisted. It's slightly more permanent than nso, but not really. Physical is the only surefire way of keeping something somewhat permanently, and that is dying a slow death in the industry unfortunately.
Being off from work, the kids being off from school, and family in from out of town has meant lots of Mario Kart 8 and Super Mario Party Jamboree (which arrived on Christmas).
Aside from that I've been staying up after everyone else is in bed and playing Echoes of Wisdom (another Christmas arrival) along with some TotK. Aside from Switch, I also started Stray (gorgeous game btw) on PC, after finishing up Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order right before Christmas. Trying to get as much gaming in as possible before returning to work on the 2nd.
My family plays a lot of multiplayer coop games together - primarily myself, wife, and older son. My younger son plays some games with us but not othets. We finished what we could reasonably play of Mario Wonder all together - all the main game levels and all wonderseeds. We haven't done the special levels yet and we are taking a break.
Lately we have been playing Moving Out 2, which has been a lot of fun. There are some frustrating aspects of it, but it's the type of multiplayer my family enjoys where we can do a quick level or two in the evening.
It's only in the past year that I've been able to work solo video games back into my life, so I'm doing g a lot of catching up. Last year I finished BotW, and now I'm onto TotK. I finished the Wind temple and am on my way to Kakariko village. I think once I get there (which should be tonight) I'm going to take a little break. I want to savor this game, not rush it.
Once I hit the break I'm going to blitz through Super Mario Odyssey, another game I haven't ever completed. I restarted it about a month ago and have been playing it in small bites between exploring Hyrule.
I'm also planning on starting my own playthrough of Super Mario Wonder to attempt to 100% it, which is not something the rest of my family is interested in.
Something doesn't add up here - if the rumored Switch 2 specs are legit, the Switch 2 will support an Nvidia Ampre GPU. Now, the devil is in the details (memory, clock speed, etc.) but Nvidia's RT performance is generally a lot better than AMD's, and coupled with DLSS , the Switch 2 should perform very well with RT support.
Frankly I don't care about GTA on the Switch 2 - but the reasoning strikes me as suspect.
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Re: Uh Oh, It Looks Like Select Switch 2 Games Won't Support Cloud Saves
I think it's an error or has something to do with this, which is another disclaimer on the page:
Save data created in the second save data slot in The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom – Nintendo Switch 2 Edition cannot be transferred to The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom on Nintendo Switch.
Re: Opinion: The Switch 2 Is A Powerhouse For The Price
@Banjo- People who have actually seen the hardware and games in person have indicated that it looks better than Series S in several cases.
How can you say Switch isn't able to do anything at that level? We are just getting started with Switch 2 and haven't seen any finished games yet. Switch 2 also has Tensor Cores and Ray Tracing cores that simply aren't available on Gen 9 hardware.
As far as DF, they used captured footage from a Youtube videos of unfinished games, not actual hands on analysis. None of these games are done. We'll see when the console launches.
Re: Opinion: The Switch 2 Is A Powerhouse For The Price
@rjejr It's a hybrid. What handheld do you know that can do 4k60 to a TV? Look, like anything, everyone is going to have different value propositions. For me, the hybrid nature of the Switch and Switch 2 is what make it appealing. I never owned a handheld until the Switch, only home consoles. And I love the fact that I can play AAA titles both on my TV at high resolution, then pick it up out of the dock and play the same game, 1080p on the train to work in the morning. The fact that it is running Cyberpunk with high graphical fidelity in a handheld is, in a word, stunning.
Is it as good graphically as the PS5 or Series X? No, of course not. But in an age of diminishing returns, and unlike the Switch 1, it's good enough for me and likely good enough for a lot of people.
Re: Opinion: The Switch 2 Is A Powerhouse For The Price
@MrGawain Not really. The tech they are using is also important for games; they wouldn't have taken anything out hardware wise other than maybe the audio chip that filters out background noise, but that's not an expensive component.
Re: Opinion: The Switch 2 Is A Powerhouse For The Price
@honestgamer I would much rather pay $80 for a game once than to deal with microtransactions.
Re: Opinion: The Switch 2 Is A Powerhouse For The Price
@Banjo- The DF videos are fine for what they are, but they are also going off YouTube footage (which compresses the hell out of video) and get a few facts wrong.
Re: Opinion: The Switch 2 Is A Powerhouse For The Price
@CheapCheepBeach There have been side by side comparisons between some games on the Series S vs what we've seen on Switch 2, and in almost every case, the Switch 2 graphics looked better. Likely because it has more, faster memory and a whole lot of Nvidia magic.
Besides, you can't throw a Series S into your backpack and play it on the bus. The Series S doesn't have a 1080p 120 fps VRR and HDR display as part of it. And the Series S is in no way "three times the processing power". I'd put it more like 20% more raw processing power, but in reality it's memory starved so that's what is holding it back. Completely different value proposition.
Re: We've Seen Switch 2's LCD Screen In The Flesh, And It Really Doesn't Feel Like A Downgrade
The folks at Digital Foundry are speculating that it may be MiniLED based on the Direct. There's also the issue that it is really hard to get an OLED panel with 120hz VRR and HDR for anything close to a reasonable price. My guess is Nintendo really wanted 120hz VRR and HDR, so compromized on the panel. But if it is miniLED, that's almost as good as OLED.
Re: Nintendo Delays Switch 2 Pre-Orders In The US Amidst New Trump Tariffs
@hypercoyote It takes about a decade and $20-40 billion to get a chip foundry up and running. Give or take a few years.
Re: Nintendo Delays Switch 2 Pre-Orders In The US Amidst New Trump Tariffs
@tobsesta99 I think the $450 was in anticipation of tariffs, but they did not think the tariffs would be nearly as steep as they are.
Re: Nintendo Delays Switch 2 Pre-Orders In The US Amidst New Trump Tariffs
@Overzeal It may have to. There's a 40% tariff on Vietnam, where many Switch consoles are manufactured from.
Re: Nintendo Delays Switch 2 Pre-Orders In The US Amidst New Trump Tariffs
@PloverNutter I think they considered tariffs in the price, but they didn't think that the tariffs would be nearly as steep as they are. A 40%+ tax in Vientam where many Switch consoles are manufactured is a big deal.
Re: Nintendo Switch Online Announces Removal Of Super Famicom Title
My suspicion of what happened here is that the licensing agreement came up, and there was a dispute over the price, and Nintendo looked at the usage of super soccer and saw that it was probably close to non-existent and therefore not worth the price of licensing. It's going to happen, I'm not going to get worked up over a single game that I never play, but if this starts becoming a trend then I'll get concerned. But it's not trend yet, so really why get up in arms?
As far as virtual console, yes you could "own" the games, but those e shops are gone. If you have a Wii or Wii U and it breaks today, you have no way of getting those games back. So at the moment every single virtual console game is delisted. It's slightly more permanent than nso, but not really. Physical is the only surefire way of keeping something somewhat permanently, and that is dying a slow death in the industry unfortunately.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (New Year Edition)
Being off from work, the kids being off from school, and family in from out of town has meant lots of Mario Kart 8 and Super Mario Party Jamboree (which arrived on Christmas).
Aside from that I've been staying up after everyone else is in bed and playing Echoes of Wisdom (another Christmas arrival) along with some TotK. Aside from Switch, I also started Stray (gorgeous game btw) on PC, after finishing up Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order right before Christmas. Trying to get as much gaming in as possible before returning to work on the 2nd.
Re: The Legend Of Zelda: Echoes Of Wisdom Overworld Sure Looks Familiar, But Is It?
@Scarmucci There absolutely is a timeline. What a silly thing to say.
Re: Players Are Having Major Issues With MLB The Show 24 On Switch
@Qwertyninty Why? They launched The Show 23 on the Switch and it worked just fine.
Re: Players Are Having Major Issues With MLB The Show 24 On Switch
@UmbreonsPapa I think Sony's agreement with MLB requires them to put it on multiple consoles now.
Re: Nintendo Expands Switch Online's Game Boy & GBC Library With Three More Mario Titles
+1 for SML..... It needs to be there.
Re: Talking Point: What Are You Playing This Weekend? (January 13th)
My family plays a lot of multiplayer coop games together - primarily myself, wife, and older son. My younger son plays some games with us but not othets. We finished what we could reasonably play of Mario Wonder all together - all the main game levels and all wonderseeds. We haven't done the special levels yet and we are taking a break.
Lately we have been playing Moving Out 2, which has been a lot of fun. There are some frustrating aspects of it, but it's the type of multiplayer my family enjoys where we can do a quick level or two in the evening.
It's only in the past year that I've been able to work solo video games back into my life, so I'm doing g a lot of catching up. Last year I finished BotW, and now I'm onto TotK. I finished the Wind temple and am on my way to Kakariko village. I think once I get there (which should be tonight) I'm going to take a little break. I want to savor this game, not rush it.
Once I hit the break I'm going to blitz through Super Mario Odyssey, another game I haven't ever completed. I restarted it about a month ago and have been playing it in small bites between exploring Hyrule.
I'm also planning on starting my own playthrough of Super Mario Wonder to attempt to 100% it, which is not something the rest of my family is interested in.
Re: GTA 6 On 'Switch 2' Would Be "Very Tricky To Pull Off", Says Digital Foundry
Something doesn't add up here - if the rumored Switch 2 specs are legit, the Switch 2 will support an Nvidia Ampre GPU. Now, the devil is in the details (memory, clock speed, etc.) but Nvidia's RT performance is generally a lot better than AMD's, and coupled with DLSS , the Switch 2 should perform very well with RT support.
Frankly I don't care about GTA on the Switch 2 - but the reasoning strikes me as suspect.